SEETHER interview

M4M: HEY MAN I APPRECIATE THE CALL TODAY

DALE: NO WORRIES MAN!M4M: SO HOW IS THE CURRENT TOUR BEEN GOING FOR YOU?

DALE: THE TOUR IS GOING IS GOING REALLY WELL. MOST OF THE DATES HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT. IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WELL.M4M: YOU SEEM TO TOUR WITH FLYLEAF A LOT. DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SCHEDULING OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?

DALE: WE LIKE TO TOUR WITH BANDS THAT WE GET ALONG WITH AND THAT YOU ARE FRIENDS WITH AND THE FLYLEAF PEOPLE
ARE SO NICE AND GREAT BAND THAT WE CAN GET ALONG WITH. WE MET FLYLEAF IN 05-06 WHEN THEY OPENED FOR US AND
SHINEDOWN ON THE SNO-CORE TOUR. FROM THERE WE BECAME FRIENDS AND WE ARE A FAN OF THERE MUSIC AND WANTED
TO TOUR WITH THOSE GUYS.M4M: YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER GROUP ON THAT TOUR WITH YOU REV THEORY RIGHT?

DALE: ACTUALLY REV THEORY WAS WITH US FOR THE FIRST PART OF OUR TOUR AND NOW WE HAVE A GROUP CALLED RED THAT
PICKED UP WITH US TO FINISH OFF THE SECOND PART OF THE RUN.M4M: WE NOTICED THE SINGLE “FAKE IT” HAS BEEN DOING EXTREMELY WELL ON THE CHARTS. WE HEARD A FEW DIFFERENT
VERSIONS ON HOW AND WHY THE SONG WAS WROTE. ONE WAS IT WAS WRITTEN AS A JOKE.

DALE: YEAH I THINK PRETTY MUCH IT WAS WRITTEN AS A RESPONSE TO THE WHOLE HOLLYWOOD POP CULTURE THING THAT
PEOPLE SEEM SO FASCINATED WITH WHAT PEOPLE PORTRAY AND BEING REALLY FAKE. WELL YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE
CONCERNED WHETHER YOU ARE WEARING UNDERWEAR OR NOT INSTEAD OF OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS. YOU KNOW IT
STARTED OUT AS KIND OF A FUNNY THING THEN SHAUN BROUGHT THIS IDEA TO ME AND IT WAS SOMETHING WE HAVE NEVER
DONE BEFORE AND WE DID IT FOR THE LABEL AND THEY LIKED IT. FROM THERE IT KIND OF GOT A LIFE OF ITS OWN AND TOOK
OFF FROM THERE.M4M: IT IS FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE MORE BANDS THEN NONE THAT WE SPEAK WITH LIKE FINGER ELEVEN AND
PARALYZER, THE HITS SEEM TO COME FROM NOWHERE.

DALE: YEAH IT IS ALSO FUNNY YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE PARALYZER IS A HUGE HIT FOR THEM AND IT IS ALSO A
DEPARTURE FROM ANY OTHER FINGER ELEVEN STUFF. I THINK IT IS GREAT FOR THEM. I AM A HUGE FINGER ELEVEN FAN. I THINK
THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT SOMETHING THAT STAND OUT A LITTLE UNIQUE INSTEAD OF 5 SONGS THAT
SOUND THE SAME.M4M: YEAH YOU KNOW IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WITH “FAKE IT” YOU KNOW SEETHER WROTE IT AND SEETHER IS PERFORMING IT BUT
AT THE SAME TIME IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND I THINK THAT WILL CATCH NEW FANS AS WELL.

DALE: YOU KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR FANS THAT ENJOY THE SONG BUT YOU ALSO CAN GAIN OTHER FANS THAT MAY NOT HAVE
HEARD OF YOU. IT IS A TOUGH THING BUT WE WANT ALBUMS THAT ARE DIFFERENT AND WILL TAKE YOU ON A NEW JOURNEY.M4M: ABSOLUTELY! YOU KNOW THERE ARE SOME ARTIST OUT THERE THAT ALBUM AFTER ALBUM SOUNDS THE SAME AND IT GETS
KIND OF OLD AFTER A WHILE.

DALE: I THINK BANDS THEY GET CAUGHT UP IN ALBUM THAT WORKED FOR THEM SO THEY SAY LETS RE-MAKE THAT ALBUM AND
THERE IS NO REAL FORM OF GROWTH FOR THEM. I KNOW BANDS WHO MADE A GREAT ALBUM THEN THE NEXT ONE IS KIND OF
THE SAME THING AND SULKING AGAIN. BUT AS A BAND WE WANT TO CONSTANTLY CHANGE WE WANT TO BE DIFFERENT. KORN IS
DOING SOMETHING WAY DIFFERENT THEN WHAT THEY DID 10 YEARS AGO AND IT HAS BEEN A PROGRESSION AND I LIKE EVERY
SINGLE ALBUM THAT THEY HAVE PUT OUT. YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE GROWN AS MUSICIANS AND PEOPLE AND I
HAVE ENJOYED THEM AS A FAN AND WE WANT THAT PROGRESSION.M4M: LOOKING BACK WE HAVE NOTICED THAT BESIDES SHAUN AND YOURSELF SEETHER AS A GROUP HAS HAD MANY CHANGES
WITH IN THE GROUP. DOES THAT CHANGE GET FRUSTRATING AND HALT PROGRESSION?

DALE: IT CAN YOU KNOW IT IS HARD. WE CAME OVER FROM SOUTH AFRICA AND YOU KNOW THERE WERE TWO OF US AND WE
NEEDED TO FIND A DRUMMER AND A GUITAR PLAYER. SO WE FOUND THESE TWO GUYS AND GOT RUSHED INTO A TOUR. WE
NEVER REALLY DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE. OVER IN THE U.S IS A DIFFERENT CULTURE AND A DIFFERENT WAY OF
TOURING. IT REALLY IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER YOU KNOW. TOURING A LOT VERY, CLOSE LIVING QUARTERS AND KNOWING
EACH OTHER WELL. WE HAVE HAD TO FIRE PEOPLE DO TO ATTITUDES, WE HAD SOME PEOPLE QUIT. YOU KNOW IT IS HARD, VERY
HARD TO BE MARRIED TO THIS PERSON SO TO SPEAK THAT YOU DON’T REALLY KNOW AT ALL. IT CAN TAKE A LONG WHILE TO
FIND THE RIGHT COMBINATION. IT IS SO HARD TO PUT A BAND TOGETHER WHILE YOU ARE TOURING. WE ARE A FOUR PIECE NOW
AND HAVE FRIEND WHO HAS BEEN OUR FRIEND FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS NOW. WE ARE FEELING REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW. WE
FOUND A GREAT COMBINATION IN JOHN.M4M: NOW IS JOHN GOING TO STAY ON AT LEAD GUITAR OR WAS HE PICKED UP JUST FOR TOURING?

DALE: NO, NO HE IS GOING TO STAY ON WITH US. THAT’S THE THING ALSO; HE HAS BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A COUPLE OF
TIMES. YOU KNOW YOU BRING IN A YOUNG GUY OR FIND SOMEONE WHO HASN’T BEEN PART OF THE INDUSTRY AND ALL O F A
SUDDEN THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS MY FANCY SPORTS CAR AND MY THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS. IT’S NOT LIKE THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT RICH. YOU HAVE TO WORK YOUR BUTT OFF FOR EVERYTHING. NOTHING
FOR NOTHING BUT WE ARE CRAMPED ON A BUS CANNOT TAKE A SHOWER EVERYDAY SO I DON’T THINK PEOPLE TOTALLY
REALIZE WHAT IT IS LIKE. THE THING IS NOW WE HAVE GUYS WHO KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT AND UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY
AND TOURING. THEY DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING CRAZY THEY JUST GO OUT THERE TO PLAY. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO JUST GO OUT
AND JAM. IT IS WORKING REALLY WELL. THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE SO WE ARE JUST HAVING A REALLY GOOD TIME.M4M: NOW WE NOTICED THAT THE RECORD LABEL IN THE PAST AND MAYBE NOT ANYMORE WOULD DICTATE TO YOU WHAT YOU
COULD AND COULD NOT DO. DOES THAT GET FRUSTRATING AS AN ARTIST?

DALE: YOU KNOW IT CAN BE AND WHEN WE CAME OVER WE WERE A BABY BAND SO TO SPEAK RECORDING OUR FIRST ALBUM SO
THE LABEL HAS A LOT TO SAY YOU KNOW. WHAT SONGS CAN GO ON THE ALBUM. AS FAR AS THE LABEL IS CONCERNED THEY
WANT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO SELL. SO WE MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF SAY ON THE FIRST ALBUM BUT THE NEXT ONE WE GET A
LITTLE MORE. THE SECOND ALBUM DOES WELL YOU GET MORE SAY ON THE THIRD AND SO ON. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT SUCCESS AND AT THIS POINT THE LABEL PRETTY MUCH LET US DO WHAT WE WANT WHICH IS AWESOME.
YOU KNOW WE STILL SIT DOWN WE MAKE A LIST, THE LABEL MAKES A LIST OF WHAT EACH OF US WANT ON THE ALBUM AND IT IS
PRETTY MUCH A COMPROMISE YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW THEY PRETTY MUCH LET US DO WHAT WE WANT WHICH IS REALLY NICE
BUT AS A BABY BAND STARTING UP I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE IN THIS AND KNOWING WHAT IS
GOING TO SELL. THEY ALSO WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM ALONG WITH WHAT IS BEST FOR US. WE BOTH DO WHATEVER IT
TAKES TO GET THERE. IT CAN GET A LITTLE FRUSTRATING WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO AND THE LABEL HAS
ANOTHER IDEA ON IT. WE MADE THE SACRIFICE IN THE BEGINNING AND NOW WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO MORE AND THEY ARE
OK WITH THAT.M4M: NOW BESIDES ALL THE ALBUMS YOU HAVE OUT. YOU ALSO HAVE A DVD THAT KIND OF WAS A FLUKE THING. THERE REALLY
WAS NO PLAN TO DO IT RIGHT? SHAUN KIND OF JUST LOST HIS VOICE OR WAS SICK?

DALE: YEAH WHAT HAD ACTUALLY HAPPENED WAS THE FIRST SHOW WE DID SHAUN WAS REALLY SICK IN VEGAS AND WE DIDN’T
WANT TO CANCEL THE SHOW BUT KNEW SHAUN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO OUT SO WHAT WE DID WAS PLAY ACOUSTIC AND
THE REVIEWS WERE GREAT, PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO SEE IT SO THE NEXT DAY WE HAD OFF A FORMER MEMBER PAT
CALLAHAN SAID HE HAD THIS FRIEND IN PHILADELPHIA WHO HAD A BAR AND WANTED US TO PLAY ACOUSTIC AND FREE BEER. SO
WE WERE OK FINE LETS GO IN AND JAM IT. THE LABEL HEARD ABOUT THIS AND SAID WHY DON’T WE RECORD THE SHOW; WE
WILL GET A CAMERA AND FILM IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN USE OFF OF IT. FROM THERE WE HAVE A SIX-CAMERA CREW A MIXING
TRUCK OUT SIDE AND THIS WAS ALL IN A SPAN OF LIKE THREE WEEKS. SO IT WENT FROM PLAYING IN A BUDDY’S BAR AND
GETTING HAMMERED TO THIS MIXING TRUCK AND CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, AND WE ARE RECORDING THE WHOLE THING IT JUST
TOOK A LIFE OF ITS OWN, BUT IT WAS COOL AND IT TURNED OUT REALLY WELL. WE REALLY LIKE IT, IT IS SOMETHING SPECIAL
KIND OF LIKE A SNAP SHOT UNLIKE A RECORDING IN A STUDIO THAT IS DONE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE IS NO
ONE MOMENT THAT REALLY STANDS OUT. LOOKING BACK ON THAT WE REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE AND WHO WAS IN THE
CROWD. IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT TO ME IS JUST REALLY COOL THE WAY IT CAME OUT YOU KNOW. WE ARE REALLY
PROUD OF IT. IT TURNED OUT WELL.M4M: NOW YOU GUYS ARE HUGE IN AMERICA AND IN CANADA GOING GOLD IN BOTH COUNTRIES BUT YOU ARE ALSO BIG IN OTHER
COUNTRIES AS WELL.

DALE: YEAH AUSTRALIA WE DO REALLY WELL. EUROPE WE DO EXTREMELY WELL AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO HEAD BACK
OVER THERE AND AMSTERDAM. WE DO REALLY WELL IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AS WELL AND THE ONLY WAY TO EXPOSE YOUR
BAND IS YOU HAVE TO GO OVER THERE AND PLAY SHOWS. TRY TO GET THE STATIONS TO PLAY YOUR SONG THEN GO BACK AND
PLAY AGAIN. IT IS HARD ENOUGH TO TOUR THE STATES BEING SUCH A HUGE COUNTRY SO TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THE REST
OF THE WORLD IT REALLY IS A FULL TIME JOB YOU KNOW. IT IS SUCH A FULL TIME JOB THAT IT TURNS INTO A LIFESTYLE BECAUSE
YOU ARE NEVER HOME DOING YOUR THING. YOU ARE ALWAYS WORKING BUT IT IS A FUN JOB YOU KNOW AND VERY DIFFERENT
THAN ANYTHING ELSE.M4M: WELL THAT’S THE THING IT SEEMS LIKE FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN I PERSONALLY STARTED HEARING OF SEETHER
EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND YOU ARE ON TOUR. THAT HAS TO BE TIRING AT TIMES?

DALE: YEAH YOU KNOW IT IS. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF LAST YEAR WE HAVE BEEN ON TOUR. WE HAVE TOURED REALLY HARD
SINCE COMING TO THE STATES, THE ONLY BREAK WE HAD IS WHEN WE CAME OFF THE ROAD FOR PRETTY MUCH LIKE A MONTH
TO RECORD OUR LAST ALBUM “KARMA AND EFFECT” AND THEN STRAIGHT BACK OUT AGAIN. YOU KNOW SHAUN WAS GOING TO
REHAB OUR GUITAR PLAYER HAD QUIT SO WE PRETTY MUCH TOOK A YEAR OFF AFTER THAT AND IT WAS THE BEST THING WE
COULD HAVE DONE YOU KNOW. JOHN HAD SURGERY ON HIS BACK AND SHAUN GOT TO TAKE CARE OF HIS PERSONAL STUFF
AND I GOT TO DEAL WITH A LITTLE OF WHAT I HAD BEEN GOING ON. WE JUST GOT TO BE HOME FOR A WHILE AND FEEL WHAT IT
WAS LIKE TO BE NORMAL. IT IS IMPORTANT TO WEAR YOURSELF OUT OVER 5 YEARS AND THAT’S IT. YOU NEED TO PACE
YOURSELF AND BE AROUND FOR A WHILE.M4M: THAT’S THE THING YOU DON’T WANT TO BE THAT PASSING GLIMPSE OR ONE OF THOSE GROUPS THAT PEOPLE WONDER
WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. YOU KNOW.

DALE: YEAH ABSOLUTELY!M4M: TOURING HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD TO YOU GUYS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE PICKED UP SO MANY FANS AND EVERYONE I
TALK TO HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT SEETHER.

DALE: YEAH YOU KNOW WE STARTED PLAYING THESE BIG ROOMS AND BEING COMPLETELY SOLD OUT. RADIO HAS BEEN REALLY
GOOD TO US AND THE FANS HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD TO US. IT IS NICE TO LOOK BACK AND SEE THAT PAYING YOUR DUES SO
TO SPEAK ARE WORKING AND PAYING OFF AND WE ARE NOW DOING REALLY WELL AND IN A GOOD POSITION. WE APPRECIATE
EVERYTHING OUR FANS HAVE GIVEN US.M4M: WELL MAN I WILL LET YOU GET BACK OUT THERE AND ROCK! I APPRECIATE THE CALL AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU
ROCKING THE RANGE THIS WEEKEND.

DALE: ALL RIGHT MAN THAT IS AWESOME WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE! THANKS MAN

HAILING FROM THE DEPTHS OF SOUTH AFRICA COMES A
GROUP LIKE NO OTHER. WITH EACH ALBUM THEY PUT
OUT THERE SOUND CHANGES JUST ENOUGH TO KEEP
ONE INTERESTED. WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH
DALE BEFORE SEETHER PLAYED ROCK ON THE RANGE
TO DISCUSS THE INNER WORKING OF THE BAND IN A
WHOLE AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOM MAKE THE
POWER GROUP SEETHER. FACED WITH DIVERSITY AND
PERSONAL CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY COULD NOT
KEEP THIS GROUP AWAY FROM THERE DESTINY OF
GREATNESS. WE WERE ABLE TO LEARN SO MUCH
ABOUT SEETHER AND NOW WE PASS THAT ALONG TO
YOU AS FANS AND FUTURE FANS.